By Nick Inglis, Director, Professional Development at AIIM
May 28, 2010 - 12:46 PM
Please excuse my formatting issues (Easier to read version here), but there was a terrific conversation on Twitter about SharePoint and it's position in the future that I wanted to bring to everyone's attention. What are your thoughts on all of this?
1. Jeff Shuey jshuey I wonder if the Big Three #ECM vendors know that it's Game Over ... #SharePoint Won (even if it will take a few more years to realize)
2. CherylMcKinnon CherylMcKinnon @jshuey ironically less because of Sharepoint itself, and more how they chose to react to it.
3. Nick Inglis nickinglis @jshuey I don't know about that. SharePoint is strong, but I don't know if you can say that it's won. CMIS is still on it's way.
4. Jeff Shuey jshuey @CherylMcKinnon Agreed. I do think the Big Three #ECM vendors have a few years left, but only at the top of the ECM Pyramid
5. CherylMcKinnon CherylMcKinnon @nickinglis @jshuey - CMIS will fast track the process. The long tail vendors w alternative delivery models will pick up what msft can't
6. Jeff Shuey jshuey @nickinglis Sort of, but CMIS is a set of standards. The problem with standards is ... you get the lowest common denominator.
7. CherylMcKinnon CherylMcKinnon Blogged about this topic last week: http://bit.ly/cdXjaM #ecm
8. Nick Inglis nickinglis @jshuey @CherylMcKinnon SharePoint may end up owning the Fortune 500, but there are lots of comps that SP is too bloated & expensive for.
9. CherylMcKinnon CherylMcKinnon @nickinglis that's where open source #ecm, hosted, saas and cloud fills the gap.
10. rileybeebs rileybeebs U might get beat up RT @jshuey wonder if the Big 3 #ECM vnd's know it's Game Over #SharePoint Won (even if it takes a few yrs to realize)
11. CherylMcKinnon CherylMcKinnon @jshuey no - it is the greatest common ground.
12. Jeff Shuey jshuey @rileybeebs I might, but I know you'll be in my court <G>
13. Nick Inglis nickinglis @CherylMcKinnon Completely agree. IMHO Nuxeo is one of the better positioned solutions in that market, along with Alfresco.
14. Jeff Shuey jshuey @CherylMcKinnon I don't know. I lived thru several other standardization processes and have not seen the greatest good come out of them.
15. Jeff Shuey jshuey @CherylMcKinnon I'm optimistic the vendors (and customers) will rally around the CMIS cause and really make it into something worthwhile
16. CherylMcKinnon CherylMcKinnon @jshuey the difference this time is that people are getting hands dirty with real stuff now. It's awesome & exciting what's out there #cmis
17. Nick Inglis nickinglis @jshuey I think when CMIS comes out, a good portion will see SharePoint as an expense that isn't worthwhile when there are lower cost alts.
18. rileybeebs rileybeebs @jshuey I got your back! I got beat up for a similar post.
19. CherylMcKinnon CherylMcKinnon http://www.slideshare.net/nuxeo/cmis-and-its-value-to-business-nuxeo-open-source-ecm-gilbane-conference-may-2010
20. Jeff Shuey jshuey @CherylMcKinnon @nickinglis I think you are both right. There is MUCH more at risk for the Vendors ... they MUST adopt CMIS.
21. Jeff Shuey jshuey @rileybeebs Thanks. I'm not a 100% SharePoint Fan Boy, but I do see writing on the wall. The next $1B Market oppty is where we live
22. rileybeebs rileybeebs @jshuey@CherylMcKinnon @nickinglis I think we will see more vertical play, & connectivity w/ SharePoint Esp. now with the new BCS features
23. rileybeebs rileybeebs @jshuey People need accept that it's also a Platform, even if it does just used as a hand off.
24. Nick Inglis nickinglis @rileybeebs I've heard that one, but I'm not convinced that there won't be a drop of SP to other solutions that have the same connectivity.
25. Bryant Duhon bduhon @jshuey Maybe I'm just being a contrarian, but I tend the think the game's just beginning. After all, how big was the board before?
26. CherylMcKinnon CherylMcKinnon @rileybeebs "platforms vs. suites vs. condominiums" :-)
27. rileybeebs rileybeebs @nickinglis big story is how it plays with Office 2010. For a MS shop I'm hard pressed to find a reason why not use at least SP foundation
28. rileybeebs rileybeebs @nickinglis I think it's not the big 3 that have a threat, but the tons of little guys ...
29. Jeff Shuey jshuey @bduhon I am a contrarian too. I think it's a new era of #ECM - mainly because of changes in computing paradigms & perceptions of "content"
30. CherylMcKinnon CherylMcKinnon @rileybeebs look under the covers... the leaders were all architected in the middle 90s - at some point the creakiness sets in.
31. rileybeebs rileybeebs @nickinglis @CherylMcKinnon These convo's scare me. Esp. w/ 140 chars I'm not a hater I swear. But no doubt #ECM world changes w/ #SP2010
32. rileybeebs rileybeebs @CherylMcKinnon everything has a life cycle right?
33. CherylMcKinnon CherylMcKinnon @rileybeebs yep
34. Nick Inglis nickinglis @rileybeebs I'm not sure the #ECM world changes nearly as much as everyone has been portraying.
35. Bryant Duhon bduhon @jshuey Agree. Just dubious about declaring #sharepoint #ecm champion just yet though.
36. Jeff Shuey jshuey @bduhon It depends upon your method of measurement, but by several measures (revenue, seat count, et al) #SharePoint won in #ECM (blog post?)
37. Nick Inglis nickinglis @rileybeebs @CherylMcKinnon @bduhon @jshuey I'm pretty sure this conversation will be spawning several blog posts.
38. Bryant Duhon bduhon @jshuey Yes, please! "win" troubles me still. Implies the world is saturated with #ECM solutions and all content is under control.
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